Andy on Linux II

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16 Dec 2006

I thought it was time I drop in and give everyone an update on the Andy on Linux project. We have been through a little bit of adjusting and optimizing, but now we are set up and things are going smoothly.

Andy’s PC, if you don’t remember, is a TV offer Dell, 2.4Ghz Celeron, 256MB Ram, 30GB HD, on-board video/lan/sound. Pretty basic system.

At first we went with the Edubuntu distribution. Oddly enough, I couldn’t get an actual install up and running. I would go through the install, get to the copying files, and get an error message that the kernel could not be installed.

I decided it would be just as easy to install Ubuntu and just add the educational packages myself, so since I had the CD handy, I went on along that route.

I installed Ubuntu, added a bunch of games and such, and he was off and running. I was having a few issues with the apt package manager and wasn’t completely happy with it, so when we changed monitors and tanked X, I decided it was the opportune time to dump Ubuntu and go to my favorite Linux distribution, Fedora Core 6.

I decided to switch to KDE so it would be a bit more Windows like so he wouldn’t be totally different from what he uses at school. I turned on Compiz for the cool wobbly effects, added Spongebob wallpaper, and proceeded to download all the game and educational packages I could find that looked interesting.

Some of the apps he really enjoys so far are:

  • ppracer, a downhill racing on his belly penguin game, it’s actually got great graphics and he has a ball with it.
  • SuperTux, a Super Mario Bros. clone that uses a penguin as our hero instead of the Nintendo staple.
  • Super TuxKart, a Mario Kart type game using Linux characters.
  • TuxType, a typing educational game.

Interestingly enough, one of the first things Andy wanted to do was load Open Office Writer and start writing about his day at school (Do we have a budding blogger?!?!?)

All in all the first few weeks have gone very well. Zero crashes or system problems, he loves the games, the games are free, and this is a great story…

We took him to Fred Meyer, bought him the Dave Mirra 2 BMX game for Playstation 2, and it sat downstairs, we got home and he went right back into the office to play on his computer.

For those of you looking to get your child into computing, I highly recommend Linux. Be forewarned, it’s not Windows, you probably want to be a pretty savvy user, but I am assuming since your reading my geeky blog, you probably are.

JB

*Editor’s note: Every application and OS Distribution in this post is available free of charge.

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14 Responses to Andy on Linux II

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Marko Kettunen

December 17th, 2006 at 10:03 am

As I have started learning to use Linux properly just merely about six months ago, I guess I’m pretty close to your regular nine year old in the sense. Well, at least I’m a Finn… ;) But, what I can’t figure out, after reading this very interesting article (way to go, boys, keep it up!) is that howcome you found Ubuntu such a hard one to use, since for a Linux newbie, it’s much easier to use apt-get or Synaptic than other package managers (I still find aptitude quite messy and there sure isn’t anything worse than using Adept, which carries on getting the system crashing every now and then – also used pacman on Arch as well…) So far I have found Ubuntu the easiest way to keep your system up and running. That should apply for a child as well?

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» I told you Fedora was better than Ubuntu

December 17th, 2006 at 10:45 am

[...] I have always preached that Fedora Core is A LOT better than Ubuntu!!  I have installed both and messed around with both and I find that Fedora is the easiest Linux distro.  There is some confirmation to my beliefs from a blog post about a 9 year old Linux user on the Philoking blog.  The reason why I like Fedora over Ubuntu is the same reason they like Fedora over Ubuntu, the application manager.  Neither is perfect but I find installing software on Fedora products much easier. [...]

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CVirus

December 17th, 2006 at 10:52 am

My 4 years old Sister uses GNU/Linux and she had never seen windowz except at school and she even can’t deal with it.

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Ricco

December 17th, 2006 at 11:19 am

I found your blog through my usual Digg lurking :) , and I just wanted to chime in. It’s great to hear that your son is enjoying his Linux box. I was just entering the world of Windows 3.1 at his age…I wanted to add that I’m not an Ubuntu user, but I was intrigued by the concept of Edubuntu (and the server/workstation setup) so I downloaded both the LiveCD ISO and the Install ISO. Both ran correctly under VMware, but I hit the wall I burned the ISO’s for install. After thiry minutes of poking and prodding, I chalked it up to Intel onboard video on my spare box, and left it at that.

Great blog, by the ay. I will definitely visit in the future.
One more thing: I live in Jacksonville, N.C. (small world :) )

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dave dobbs

December 17th, 2006 at 11:21 am

What’s the advantage to Fedora Core 6 that you folks see?
I’ve tried most of the major distributions with VMware Server
and finally settled on Kubuntu 6.10 as my favorite (at least so
far.)

One oddity: the (K)ubuntu family will run under VMware in
full screen; Fedora Core 6 and Suse 10.x (I’ve tried all from
10.0 – 10.2) insist on running as a window. The host OS for
these has been XP Media.

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Kirk Badger

December 17th, 2006 at 12:27 pm

This is great .

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Makurosu

December 17th, 2006 at 12:54 pm

I set up Edubuntu on a spare computer for my son, who is 3 1/2. I’m pleased with it. I run Ubuntu on my main computer, so I have all his music and video files stored on my machine, and I set up his computer to access it using NFS. That way I can organize his files from my computer, add new music when I find it and things like that, and have everything in one place for backups.

My son likes TuxPaint and GCompris. Thanks for the heads up on the games! I just set them up on his computer. He’ll be excited to see them when he gets home. If you haven’t already, check out KStars. It’s a very good home planetarium that comes with Edubuntu.

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Chad dot blog

December 17th, 2006 at 1:47 pm

I feel old.

I’m 14 years old, and at 9, I didn’t even know what Linux was! This kid is amazing!
Link – Courtesy of Philoking

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Penguin

December 17th, 2006 at 2:03 pm

I highly doubt that you got Compiz running with onboard video and only 256mb ram. Also, Ubuntu would run very slow on a system with your specs. You should try Damn Small Linux or Puppy Linux on your system as it would run much faster. We all love linux, and agree that it’s the best OS for older hardware, but for the fancy effects fairly recent hardware is needed.

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Ricco

December 17th, 2006 at 3:41 pm

@ #9(“Penguin”):

Why the negativity? And, as far as I know, a 2.4 Ghz Celeron (even with only 256 MB of RAM) is more than adequate for a basic Fedora Core 6 box. Onboard video only becomes a hindrance with Compiz once you decide to enable every effect available. What good would DSL be for a 9-year-old student? Or Puppy, for that matter (I know that EduPup is fairly good for children, but it’s still very limited, and you didn’t mention it in your recommendations). Just wondering…

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ubunoob

December 18th, 2006 at 3:51 am

Well,this families journey into the world of computers has certainly been enhanced by the wonders that are ubuntu..
We`ve now used it in it`s various guises for about 5 months which is a month longer than we used that other thing(m.e & xp)…..now THAT was a painful 4 months.

All my 5 kids have had the choice of which os they wish to use with a windows pc being left in case of school etc…..suffice to say though windows rarely ever gets booted up now a days.

Im no computer expert and none on my kids are whizkid kid`s on a pc but every aspect of ubuntu has been a sanity saving godsend for this family and just the ££££ alone it`s going to save us in the long run is a good enough reason but the fact that ubuntu is sooooooo much better than that other crap imho just put`s the icing on the cake for me and my kids…..

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Dave

December 18th, 2006 at 3:49 pm

This is a great way to get a kid started in computers and FREE, so if he/she don’t like the games/apps there are more to try for free. The learning curve is an obstacle, but with Google and the huge community I have been able to solve some very precise technical problems with basic searching online.

Keep up the good work.

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Livio

July 24th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

I installed and tested a few linux os in my old machine: dreamlinux, lindow, mandrek, ubuntu but in non i found programming software, FEDORA has it… my son will be 7 and he likes what fedora has it he is playing chess and using gimp and i have the programming tools for c, c++ i do not know if he wants to learn someday… encouraging my kids to use Linux so that they do not suffer of costly windows

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Jason Burns

July 27th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

@Livio: I would say that teaching your kids to ignore Windows would be much more costly in the long run.

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