Comments on: Dell to charge users to NOT install crapware? http://www.philoking.com/2007/01/10/dell-to-charge-users-to-not-install-crapware/ Computing for the OS Agnostic Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:10:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Eamonn’s Blog » Blog Archive » Would pay extra to get a clean pc? http://www.philoking.com/2007/01/10/dell-to-charge-users-to-not-install-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-4990 Eamonn’s Blog » Blog Archive » Would pay extra to get a clean pc? Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:29:56 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2007/01/10/dell-to-charge-users-to-not-install-crapware/#comment-4990 [...] sources/extra reading : User refund for no Windows option Windows refund day Dell to Charge Users to not install crapware [...] [...] sources/extra reading : User refund for no Windows option Windows refund day Dell to Charge Users to not install crapware [...]

]]> By: dawngrrl http://www.philoking.com/2007/01/10/dell-to-charge-users-to-not-install-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-4934 dawngrrl Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:45:02 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2007/01/10/dell-to-charge-users-to-not-install-crapware/#comment-4934 That, I totally agree with, but then, I wouldnt buy a PC for 250 bucks....its unreasonable to think you would be getting anything of greater value. If youre shopping for a PC today, one that will be an adequate machine upon which to work, play games, function well with media or provide all the conectivity, a target price of $250 is folly. That, I totally agree with, but then, I wouldnt buy a PC for 250 bucks….its unreasonable to think you would be getting anything of greater value. If youre shopping for a PC today, one that will be an adequate machine upon which to work, play games, function well with media or provide all the conectivity, a target price of $250 is folly.

]]> By: Jason Burns http://www.philoking.com/2007/01/10/dell-to-charge-users-to-not-install-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-4933 Jason Burns Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:34:02 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2007/01/10/dell-to-charge-users-to-not-install-crapware/#comment-4933 When Dell set the expectation of PCs for $250 they not only screwed themselves, but they screwed us too. Now they have to resort to any low brow attempt to keep margins low enough to sell crap computers for dirt prices. No one really wants a underpowered machine that is nearly worthless, so here is the result of the experiment: I get this PC, it's got 256MB ram in it to begin with so it's totally garbage running XP, it's so loaded with crap that nags me about registering and purchasing and buying online services that I get pissed that I have to wait 5 minutes to see a "do you want to buy my crap" screen, and I walk away saying, "I bought a Dell and it sucks" Get rid of the crap, bring the prices back up to reasonable levels, make a good product and support it like you used to in the 90s. When Dell set the expectation of PCs for $250 they not only screwed themselves, but they screwed us too. Now they have to resort to any low brow attempt to keep margins low enough to sell crap computers for dirt prices. No one really wants a underpowered machine that is nearly worthless, so here is the result of the experiment:

I get this PC, it’s got 256MB ram in it to begin with so it’s totally garbage running XP, it’s so loaded with crap that nags me about registering and purchasing and buying online services that I get pissed that I have to wait 5 minutes to see a “do you want to buy my crap” screen, and I walk away saying, “I bought a Dell and it sucks”

Get rid of the crap, bring the prices back up to reasonable levels, make a good product and support it like you used to in the 90s.

]]> By: dawngrrl http://www.philoking.com/2007/01/10/dell-to-charge-users-to-not-install-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-4931 dawngrrl Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:41:42 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2007/01/10/dell-to-charge-users-to-not-install-crapware/#comment-4931 I'm not for crapware either - it's a pain the ass...BUT is does come with the territory. Dell (or HP, Gateway, etc ...) are gonna pull that cost from you somewhere. I'ts all part of the pricing....you start bitching about things like that - evenutally companies take that stuff out and charge more the product. If part of that cost is in inconvience its still a cost, which may be time for you, but it hits thier bottom line, that's fixed the rest is fuzzy math - tack it on to support & maintentnce, tack it onto the installed software (or lack of), but it's not going anywhere. It's 6 of one half dozen of the other, $60.00 worth of uninstalling time or 60 bones on top. I'd be all for the option though... I’m not for crapware either – it’s a pain the ass…BUT is does come with the territory. Dell (or HP, Gateway, etc …) are gonna pull that cost from you somewhere. I’ts all part of the pricing….you start bitching about things like that – evenutally companies take that stuff out and charge more the product. If part of that cost is in inconvience its still a cost, which may be time for you, but it hits thier bottom line, that’s fixed the rest is fuzzy math – tack it on to support & maintentnce, tack it onto the installed software (or lack of), but it’s not going anywhere. It’s 6 of one half dozen of the other, $60.00 worth of uninstalling time or 60 bones on top. I’d be all for the option though…

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