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	<title>Comments on: Holy World of Warcraft Batman &#8211; 64-Bit WoW!!</title>
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		<title>By: JokicA</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-25999</link>
		<dc:creator>JokicA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 19:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes,me... i have moved from 32bit to 64bit  and there is not defference,non at ALL! Maybe if u have some programs and games that uses 64bit then u will notice somerhing LITTLE but the games and the programs that are witten in 32bit u dont see NO difference,allthough u might get some troubles aswell! I said this and i stand behind my word.. i Presume that every1 is aggreing with me...  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,me&#8230; i have moved from 32bit to 64bit  and there is not defference,non at ALL! Maybe if u have some programs and games that uses 64bit then u will notice somerhing LITTLE but the games and the programs that are witten in 32bit u dont see NO difference,allthough u might get some troubles aswell! I said this and i stand behind my word.. i Presume that every1 is aggreing with me&#8230;  <img src='http://www.philoking.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nitro</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-25991</link>
		<dc:creator>nitro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, I know this blog is old but... srsly?

 &quot;I thought it was fantastic that it ran so well on Vista 64-bit. It appears to me that WoW navitely supports 64-bit&quot;

WOW! What roger was trying to tell you is that x86 programs DO NOT run in 64 bit, the run in 32. WoW does NOT send 64 bit instructions to the cpu. It is &quot;this new video card&quot; that made it run well, you would have noticed NO difference if it had been running on a 32 bit os. I hope your technical expertise has improved in the couple years since this has been posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, I know this blog is old but&#8230; srsly?</p>
<p> &#8220;I thought it was fantastic that it ran so well on Vista 64-bit. It appears to me that WoW navitely supports 64-bit&#8221;</p>
<p>WOW! What roger was trying to tell you is that x86 programs DO NOT run in 64 bit, the run in 32. WoW does NOT send 64 bit instructions to the cpu. It is &#8220;this new video card&#8221; that made it run well, you would have noticed NO difference if it had been running on a 32 bit os. I hope your technical expertise has improved in the couple years since this has been posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-25976</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow,  great PC stats! I have a phenum x3 processor with 3gb of ram and Radion HD 3800 which plays wow great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow,  great PC stats! I have a phenum x3 processor with 3gb of ram and Radion HD 3800 which plays wow great.</p>
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		<title>By: lkv</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-25042</link>
		<dc:creator>lkv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I just built an intel core i5 system for my son who uses a computer primarily to play WoW. I am at the point of installing the OS and only have 32bit XP pro. I have been hesitant to install it because I have read comments that using a 32 bit OS wouldn&#039;t get the most out of my hardware. I am an IT professional and have not played WoW, or any other computer games, because after working all day with the damn things you just don&#039;t want to. That being said, I have no freaking clue about how this game is written or how it addresses memory.  I do somewhat agree with &quot;NOOBSHANKR&#039;s&quot; statement that the 64 bit OS&#039;s use a type of emulation called, ironically, WoW64 (Windows 32-bit On Windows 64-bit).  Logically it would seem that if WoW is written to address memory using 32 bits, then using a 64 bit OS would not help at all and maybe hurt.  The thing is, all I can do is theorize and only real life test configurations tell the true story. So, my question to the forum is: Has anyone moved from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS without changing hardware and notice a SIGNIFICANT increase in performance of WoW?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I just built an intel core i5 system for my son who uses a computer primarily to play WoW. I am at the point of installing the OS and only have 32bit XP pro. I have been hesitant to install it because I have read comments that using a 32 bit OS wouldn&#8217;t get the most out of my hardware. I am an IT professional and have not played WoW, or any other computer games, because after working all day with the damn things you just don&#8217;t want to. That being said, I have no freaking clue about how this game is written or how it addresses memory.  I do somewhat agree with &#8220;NOOBSHANKR&#8217;s&#8221; statement that the 64 bit OS&#8217;s use a type of emulation called, ironically, WoW64 (Windows 32-bit On Windows 64-bit).  Logically it would seem that if WoW is written to address memory using 32 bits, then using a 64 bit OS would not help at all and maybe hurt.  The thing is, all I can do is theorize and only real life test configurations tell the true story. So, my question to the forum is: Has anyone moved from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS without changing hardware and notice a SIGNIFICANT increase in performance of WoW?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: PNY GeForce 9600 GT Video Card Problems</title>
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		<dc:creator>PNY GeForce 9600 GT Video Card Problems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 10:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Processor: AMD PHENOM™ X4 9600 (2.3GHz) 4 x 512K L2 Cache (Socket AM2+) Memory: 4GB Corsair XMS2 800MHz (2×2GB) Operating System: 64 BIT VISTA Home Premium Hard Disk: 320GB With 8MB Cache (7200rpm) Graphics Card: 1024MB GeForce 8800GT &#8230; 4GB RAM and the Geforce 8800 GTS and I&#8217;m getting problems just installing the game.I never had these problems with 32-bit vista. When I install patch 1.12.0 I get errors telling me to repair my WoW because it cannot rename certin files, &#8230;Read more&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Processor: AMD PHENOM™ X4 9600 (2.3GHz) 4 x 512K L2 Cache (Socket AM2+) Memory: 4GB Corsair XMS2 800MHz (2×2GB) Operating System: 64 BIT VISTA Home Premium Hard Disk: 320GB With 8MB Cache (7200rpm) Graphics Card: 1024MB GeForce 8800GT &#8230; 4GB RAM and the Geforce 8800 GTS and I&#8217;m getting problems just installing the game.I never had these problems with 32-bit vista. When I install patch 1.12.0 I get errors telling me to repair my WoW because it cannot rename certin files, &#8230;Read more&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PNY GeForce 8400 GS Video Card Problems &#124; Hardware in Review</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-24304</link>
		<dc:creator>PNY GeForce 8400 GS Video Card Problems &#124; Hardware in Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 4GB RAM and the Geforce 8800 GTS and I&#8217;m getting problems just installing the game.I never had these problems with 32-bit vista. When I install patch 1.12.0 I get errors telling me to repair my WoW because it cannot rename certin files, I&#8217; ve been doing it &#8230; I even dare to say that having the latest state-of-the-art videocard isn&#8217;t going to help you. Why do I think that? Well, I&#8217;ve got a single-core Intel P4 3.0Ghz with 2GB memory installed and an &#8216;old&#8217; Geforce 6800GT. &#8230;Read more&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 4GB RAM and the Geforce 8800 GTS and I&#8217;m getting problems just installing the game.I never had these problems with 32-bit vista. When I install patch 1.12.0 I get errors telling me to repair my WoW because it cannot rename certin files, I&#8217; ve been doing it &#8230; I even dare to say that having the latest state-of-the-art videocard isn&#8217;t going to help you. Why do I think that? Well, I&#8217;ve got a single-core Intel P4 3.0Ghz with 2GB memory installed and an &#8216;old&#8217; Geforce 6800GT. &#8230;Read more&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jan lul</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-23073</link>
		<dc:creator>jan lul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VISTA SUXX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VISTA SUXX</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel Sousa</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22960</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel Sousa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;because of the fact the system load is technically half of what it would be on a single 32-bit os&quot;. 

That&#039;s nonsense, so your idea is that a 64-bit system load is half the 64-bit system load because 64 = 32 x 2 ? 


That&#039;s just wrong. WRONG.

That&#039;s also an amazing statement, coming from someone who just offended another being. 

I wonder who the ignorant bastard is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;because of the fact the system load is technically half of what it would be on a single 32-bit os&#8221;. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s nonsense, so your idea is that a 64-bit system load is half the 64-bit system load because 64 = 32 x 2 ? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s just wrong. WRONG.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s also an amazing statement, coming from someone who just offended another being. </p>
<p>I wonder who the ignorant bastard is.</p>
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		<title>By: KillGuta</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22936</link>
		<dc:creator>KillGuta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to be an moron/jackass, but you have to be the biggest tool to say that Vista is better than XP in terms of gaming performance. The ONLY improvement in my games on Vista that I&#039;ve seen was the loading times, they were shorter, but I wouldn&#039;t waste my overall performance for ~2 seconds of my life.

Vista just isn&#039;t good when it comes to crappy PCs, even for the high-end ones too. I mean, who would sacrifice performance just to say &quot;Hai, I haz vista!&quot; and &quot;shiny&quot; &quot;eye-candy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to be an moron/jackass, but you have to be the biggest tool to say that Vista is better than XP in terms of gaming performance. The ONLY improvement in my games on Vista that I&#8217;ve seen was the loading times, they were shorter, but I wouldn&#8217;t waste my overall performance for ~2 seconds of my life.</p>
<p>Vista just isn&#8217;t good when it comes to crappy PCs, even for the high-end ones too. I mean, who would sacrifice performance just to say &#8220;Hai, I haz vista!&#8221; and &#8220;shiny&#8221; &#8220;eye-candy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: escador</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22783</link>
		<dc:creator>escador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAM speed is largely irrelevant compared to amount of RAM for reason I won&#039;t go into to.

Above 4GB on 32-bit is a waste of money. on most modern system with high end GPU cards above 3GB system RAM is a waste of money.

CPU should have as fast a FSB as possible with as large a L2C as possible.

Go for chip speed over cores for obvious reasons.

Fast hard drives matter for loads only unless you are paging, if you are paging something needs fixing above. If you hung up on disk speed go for 10,000RPM in a RAID0 config. choose disks with large caches to maximise soft reads.

64-bit may or may not boost performance on 32-bit applications. it varies from program to program. some 32-bit apps do run better in native 32-bit operating systems than in virtual 32-bit environments.

get as fast a GPU as possible with as much RAM as possible. crossfire may or may not make a huge difference, but should always increase frame rates to some degree.

Monitor size matters. get high frame rate on 19&quot; is a lot easier than getting the same frame rate on 30&quot;. resolution  and colour depth make a huge difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAM speed is largely irrelevant compared to amount of RAM for reason I won&#8217;t go into to.</p>
<p>Above 4GB on 32-bit is a waste of money. on most modern system with high end GPU cards above 3GB system RAM is a waste of money.</p>
<p>CPU should have as fast a FSB as possible with as large a L2C as possible.</p>
<p>Go for chip speed over cores for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>Fast hard drives matter for loads only unless you are paging, if you are paging something needs fixing above. If you hung up on disk speed go for 10,000RPM in a RAID0 config. choose disks with large caches to maximise soft reads.</p>
<p>64-bit may or may not boost performance on 32-bit applications. it varies from program to program. some 32-bit apps do run better in native 32-bit operating systems than in virtual 32-bit environments.</p>
<p>get as fast a GPU as possible with as much RAM as possible. crossfire may or may not make a huge difference, but should always increase frame rates to some degree.</p>
<p>Monitor size matters. get high frame rate on 19&#8243; is a lot easier than getting the same frame rate on 30&#8243;. resolution  and colour depth make a huge difference.</p>
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