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	<title>Comments on: Holy World of Warcraft Batman &#8211; 64-Bit WoW!!</title>
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	<description>Thoughts from my warped little mind...</description>
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		<title>By: jan lul</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-23073</link>
		<dc:creator>jan lul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VISTA SUXX</description>
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		<title>By: Miguel Sousa</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22960</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel Sousa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;because of the fact the system load is technically half of what it would be on a single 32-bit os&quot;. 

That&#039;s nonsense, so your idea is that a 64-bit system load is half the 64-bit system load because 64 = 32 x 2 ? 


That&#039;s just wrong. WRONG.

That&#039;s also an amazing statement, coming from someone who just offended another being. 

I wonder who the ignorant bastard is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;because of the fact the system load is technically half of what it would be on a single 32-bit os&#8221;. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s nonsense, so your idea is that a 64-bit system load is half the 64-bit system load because 64 = 32 x 2 ? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s just wrong. WRONG.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s also an amazing statement, coming from someone who just offended another being. </p>
<p>I wonder who the ignorant bastard is.</p>
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		<title>By: KillGuta</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22936</link>
		<dc:creator>KillGuta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to be an moron/jackass, but you have to be the biggest tool to say that Vista is better than XP in terms of gaming performance. The ONLY improvement in my games on Vista that I&#039;ve seen was the loading times, they were shorter, but I wouldn&#039;t waste my overall performance for ~2 seconds of my life.

Vista just isn&#039;t good when it comes to crappy PCs, even for the high-end ones too. I mean, who would sacrifice performance just to say &quot;Hai, I haz vista!&quot; and &quot;shiny&quot; &quot;eye-candy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to be an moron/jackass, but you have to be the biggest tool to say that Vista is better than XP in terms of gaming performance. The ONLY improvement in my games on Vista that I&#8217;ve seen was the loading times, they were shorter, but I wouldn&#8217;t waste my overall performance for ~2 seconds of my life.</p>
<p>Vista just isn&#8217;t good when it comes to crappy PCs, even for the high-end ones too. I mean, who would sacrifice performance just to say &#8220;Hai, I haz vista!&#8221; and &#8220;shiny&#8221; &#8220;eye-candy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: escador</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22783</link>
		<dc:creator>escador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAM speed is largely irrelevant compared to amount of RAM for reason I won&#039;t go into to.

Above 4GB on 32-bit is a waste of money. on most modern system with high end GPU cards above 3GB system RAM is a waste of money.

CPU should have as fast a FSB as possible with as large a L2C as possible.

Go for chip speed over cores for obvious reasons.

Fast hard drives matter for loads only unless you are paging, if you are paging something needs fixing above. If you hung up on disk speed go for 10,000RPM in a RAID0 config. choose disks with large caches to maximise soft reads.

64-bit may or may not boost performance on 32-bit applications. it varies from program to program. some 32-bit apps do run better in native 32-bit operating systems than in virtual 32-bit environments.

get as fast a GPU as possible with as much RAM as possible. crossfire may or may not make a huge difference, but should always increase frame rates to some degree.

Monitor size matters. get high frame rate on 19&quot; is a lot easier than getting the same frame rate on 30&quot;. resolution  and colour depth make a huge difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAM speed is largely irrelevant compared to amount of RAM for reason I won&#8217;t go into to.</p>
<p>Above 4GB on 32-bit is a waste of money. on most modern system with high end GPU cards above 3GB system RAM is a waste of money.</p>
<p>CPU should have as fast a FSB as possible with as large a L2C as possible.</p>
<p>Go for chip speed over cores for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>Fast hard drives matter for loads only unless you are paging, if you are paging something needs fixing above. If you hung up on disk speed go for 10,000RPM in a RAID0 config. choose disks with large caches to maximise soft reads.</p>
<p>64-bit may or may not boost performance on 32-bit applications. it varies from program to program. some 32-bit apps do run better in native 32-bit operating systems than in virtual 32-bit environments.</p>
<p>get as fast a GPU as possible with as much RAM as possible. crossfire may or may not make a huge difference, but should always increase frame rates to some degree.</p>
<p>Monitor size matters. get high frame rate on 19&#8243; is a lot easier than getting the same frame rate on 30&#8243;. resolution  and colour depth make a huge difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Elixis</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22447</link>
		<dc:creator>Elixis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!!! 
Disabling UAC stopped the choppyness, works great now!! YAY!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!!!<br />
Disabling UAC stopped the choppyness, works great now!! YAY!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Burns</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22307</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Akima: Could not disagree more, I played Wow on 64-bit vista just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Akima: Could not disagree more, I played Wow on 64-bit vista just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Akima</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22139</link>
		<dc:creator>Akima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 07:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm your running vista which is crap anyway if you want 64 bit system go to xp 64 bit its a lot better or you could wait for windows seven to come out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm your running vista which is crap anyway if you want 64 bit system go to xp 64 bit its a lot better or you could wait for windows seven to come out.</p>
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		<title>By: EviLNygma</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22084</link>
		<dc:creator>EviLNygma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha... well I for one know it does work with WoW.

I used to run a dual nVidia SLI setup a couple of years ago. I remember on the mainboard I had a little plastic clip holding the pcb which enabled you to use normal/sli... the plastic clip kept coming loose (until I superglued it)... a few times the PCB came loose during play... all it did was scramble one half of the screen and the top half was still running...


Haha..

Pretty lucky not to damage anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha&#8230; well I for one know it does work with WoW.</p>
<p>I used to run a dual nVidia SLI setup a couple of years ago. I remember on the mainboard I had a little plastic clip holding the pcb which enabled you to use normal/sli&#8230; the plastic clip kept coming loose (until I superglued it)&#8230; a few times the PCB came loose during play&#8230; all it did was scramble one half of the screen and the top half was still running&#8230;</p>
<p>Haha..</p>
<p>Pretty lucky not to damage anything.</p>
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		<title>By: EviLNygma</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22083</link>
		<dc:creator>EviLNygma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have taken the plunge today and ordered myself Vista 64bit.

I have used XP (sp3) flawlessly on WoW for many years and any crashes or problems have always been due to spyware/bot or hardware issues and not the OS.

I recently purchased an extra 2gb of DDR800 ram (OCZ) not knowing of the contraints of the XP system. It only shows 3.25db ram and is highly unstable. The new ram is itentical to the other 2gb I already had. I have tried the system with both 2g of the new and 2g of the original ram and it runs fine with either and after browsing the net... I did find many posts about instability with 4gb in XP.

My system currently is:

AW9D-MAX (latest bios for 1333fsb)
Intel E6600 2.4gb Dual Core Processor
4gb OCZ Platinum Dual Channel  DDR800 RAM (4x1gb)
nVidia 8800 320mb GTSOC2
Audigy2 sound (built in is newer but really crap in comparison to even this old soundblaster card)
1x 75gb WD Raptor 10000rpm SATA
2x 36gb WD Raptor 10000rpm SATA


I&#039;m hoping that the 4gb RAM... even thought its dual channel (not the new quad channel) will work well in 4x1 configuration.

As a reply to FPS posts above... take into account WHERE you are in WoW before you post astounding FSP results because the original azeroth zone is fast, burning crusade slower and northrend even slower..

With my current setup I push over 130fps even in Stormwind (not in the bank/AH area of course) and over 130fps in Elwynn Forest.
As soon as I go to Shattrath/Outland zones it drops to 90fps.
It drops again to between 40fps and 70fps for northrend depending on where I am.

I have had instances of my machine freezing completely due to the spell graphics being turned up and mass AE damage being done... ie in Naxxramas or in particular doing the Leeeeeeroy achievement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have taken the plunge today and ordered myself Vista 64bit.</p>
<p>I have used XP (sp3) flawlessly on WoW for many years and any crashes or problems have always been due to spyware/bot or hardware issues and not the OS.</p>
<p>I recently purchased an extra 2gb of DDR800 ram (OCZ) not knowing of the contraints of the XP system. It only shows 3.25db ram and is highly unstable. The new ram is itentical to the other 2gb I already had. I have tried the system with both 2g of the new and 2g of the original ram and it runs fine with either and after browsing the net&#8230; I did find many posts about instability with 4gb in XP.</p>
<p>My system currently is:</p>
<p>AW9D-MAX (latest bios for 1333fsb)<br />
Intel E6600 2.4gb Dual Core Processor<br />
4gb OCZ Platinum Dual Channel  DDR800 RAM (4&#215;1gb)<br />
nVidia 8800 320mb GTSOC2<br />
Audigy2 sound (built in is newer but really crap in comparison to even this old soundblaster card)<br />
1x 75gb WD Raptor 10000rpm SATA<br />
2x 36gb WD Raptor 10000rpm SATA</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping that the 4gb RAM&#8230; even thought its dual channel (not the new quad channel) will work well in 4&#215;1 configuration.</p>
<p>As a reply to FPS posts above&#8230; take into account WHERE you are in WoW before you post astounding FSP results because the original azeroth zone is fast, burning crusade slower and northrend even slower..</p>
<p>With my current setup I push over 130fps even in Stormwind (not in the bank/AH area of course) and over 130fps in Elwynn Forest.<br />
As soon as I go to Shattrath/Outland zones it drops to 90fps.<br />
It drops again to between 40fps and 70fps for northrend depending on where I am.</p>
<p>I have had instances of my machine freezing completely due to the spell graphics being turned up and mass AE damage being done&#8230; ie in Naxxramas or in particular doing the Leeeeeeroy achievement.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.philoking.com/2008/02/19/holy-world-of-warcraft-batman-64-bit-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-21982</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gunzagerreth

Do you have a clue what you are on about?

Vertical Sync, only synchronises your framerate to your monitors refresh rate, to stop screen tearing. If theyre experiencing low fps, disabling vsync won&#039;t do shit all... unless their monitor is actually at 40hz and less which is EXTREMELY unlikely.

VSync off = Max framerate if your pc is capable of going over the refresh limit...

Turn it on to limit it.

Simples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gunzagerreth</p>
<p>Do you have a clue what you are on about?</p>
<p>Vertical Sync, only synchronises your framerate to your monitors refresh rate, to stop screen tearing. If theyre experiencing low fps, disabling vsync won&#8217;t do shit all&#8230; unless their monitor is actually at 40hz and less which is EXTREMELY unlikely.</p>
<p>VSync off = Max framerate if your pc is capable of going over the refresh limit&#8230;</p>
<p>Turn it on to limit it.</p>
<p>Simples.</p>
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