Comments on: The State of Tux: A survival guide for Linux http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/ Computing for the OS Agnostic Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:10:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Azizi Khan http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-22875 Azizi Khan Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:46:45 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/#comment-22875 Good article Jason, I find it kinda funny that people like Cas expect Linux to take over Windows but at the same time they refuse to cater for the masses (that are computer illiterate). I use Ubuntu (and OSX + WinXP + Win2K3... ) and even I can't stand its colour. Nothing there says "Use me!" AK. Good article Jason,
I find it kinda funny that people like Cas expect Linux to take over Windows but at the same time they refuse to cater for the masses (that are computer illiterate). I use Ubuntu (and OSX + WinXP + Win2K3… ) and even I can’t stand its colour. Nothing there says “Use me!”

AK.

]]> By: CNET Says Ubuntu 9.04 “As Slick As Windows 7 and OS X” | Philoking.com http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-22117 CNET Says Ubuntu 9.04 “As Slick As Windows 7 and OS X” | Philoking.com Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:21:29 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/#comment-22117 [...] secret in human history… People like shiny glossy things. My previous post about Operating System color theory was just the beginning. Things have to pop, zing, and shine. People expect transparencies, drop [...] [...] secret in human history… People like shiny glossy things. My previous post about Operating System color theory was just the beginning. Things have to pop, zing, and shine. People expect transparencies, drop [...]

]]> By: Joshua http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21408 Joshua Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:05:02 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/#comment-21408 Of course... that's what I was referring to as well... Of course… that’s what I was referring to as well…

]]> By: Jason Burns http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21407 Jason Burns Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:25:08 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/#comment-21407 Joshua, of course not. I wasn't suggesting that Ubuntu ship that way, only that we set up some machines that way to do an experiment in user comfort level. Joshua, of course not. I wasn’t suggesting that Ubuntu ship that way, only that we set up some machines that way to do an experiment in user comfort level.

]]> By: Joshua http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21392 Joshua Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:22:42 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/#comment-21392 Good article, however i disagree on one point: Making Linux/Ubuntu whatever look and function like Windows is a good way to introduce someone to the system - but at the same time could also create more problems. If the distro looked like Windows as closely as possible down to the detail of the wallpaper - than that lends itself to the obvious problem of the user expecting it to function exactly like Windows and becoming frustrated when it doesn't. Having a desktop which looks and functions similar, while still retaining its own feel is more useful becuase to the user its not so different from Windows as to be unusable, but at the same time different enough that they realise they're using a different system and are willing to look around a little more if they cant quite do something they do on their Windows machine. Good article, however i disagree on one point:

Making Linux/Ubuntu whatever look and function like Windows is a good way to introduce someone to the system – but at the same time could also create more problems.

If the distro looked like Windows as closely as possible down to the detail of the wallpaper – than that lends itself to the obvious problem of the user expecting it to function exactly like Windows and becoming frustrated when it doesn’t.

Having a desktop which looks and functions similar, while still retaining its own feel is more useful becuase to the user its not so different from Windows as to be unusable, but at the same time different enough that they realise they’re using a different system and are willing to look around a little more if they cant quite do something they do on their Windows machine.

]]> By: Jason Burns http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21371 Jason Burns Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:31:41 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/#comment-21371 Thanks for the comment cas, my only response would be that you kind of prove my point. Is it "be different at all costs?" or be different for a stated and thoughtful reason. And second, do you want to be successful? Do you want an opportunity to compete with Microsoft and Apple head to head? I would hope that as a faithful Linux user, you want Linux to grow and be adopted by more people. The problem is you are not more people, you are the people who are already on board. Do you ignore the greater consumer to keep your loyal but infinitely small user base or do you placate the masses a bit in simple ways (like changing the colors) in order to gain wider acceptance? Thanks for the comment cas, my only response would be that you kind of prove my point. Is it “be different at all costs?” or be different for a stated and thoughtful reason. And second, do you want to be successful? Do you want an opportunity to compete with Microsoft and Apple head to head? I would hope that as a faithful Linux user, you want Linux to grow and be adopted by more people. The problem is you are not more people, you are the people who are already on board. Do you ignore the greater consumer to keep your loyal but infinitely small user base or do you placate the masses a bit in simple ways (like changing the colors) in order to gain wider acceptance?

]]> By: cas http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21369 cas Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:51:08 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/#comment-21369 Welp, as much as you make sense, I grow sick of it. So many pundits: "oh windows users need to be comforted...don't give em' choice, blah blah frackin blah blah". Frack em'. People by and large are sheep. Most of em' would starve or get trampled if they were taken out of the civilized world for even a few minutes. Right click, changed desktop background. done. no more brown. not vera' difficult...but oh dear gods heaven help us if Ubuntu dares to be a bit different than every clone o' blue out there. sigh. As to the choices? Evolution in action. Each generation is forced to adapt, overcome or become obsolete in one thing or another. If the change to linux is for IMPROVEMENT, I'm all for it. If its just to cater to idiots for market share ? To HELL WITH THAT. Linux is free, and will always have a base of supporters that keeps it getting better, so market share (outside of the server arena which is oh......black with white text)......is just for the pundits more than for us who use the damn thing. IT AINT winblows for a reason. If it becomes windows, then I'll be off looking for something technically superior. /rant off. (an no offense to the blogger here, but I get sick to death of the "lets cater to the idiots" crowd types of posts. ---as you can probably tell. :D Welp, as much as you make sense, I grow sick of it. So many pundits: “oh windows users need to be comforted…don’t give em’ choice, blah blah frackin blah blah”.

Frack em’. People by and large are sheep. Most of em’ would starve or get trampled if they were taken out of the civilized world for even a few minutes.

Right click, changed desktop background. done. no more brown. not vera’ difficult…but oh dear gods heaven help us if Ubuntu dares to be a bit different than every clone o’ blue out there. sigh.

As to the choices? Evolution in action. Each generation is forced to adapt, overcome or become obsolete in one thing or another. If the change to linux is for IMPROVEMENT, I’m all for it. If its just to cater to idiots for market share ? To HELL WITH THAT. Linux is free, and will always have a base of supporters that keeps it getting better, so market share (outside of the server arena which is oh……black with white text)……is just for the pundits more than for us who use the damn thing.

IT AINT winblows for a reason. If it becomes windows, then I’ll be off looking for something technically superior.

/rant off. (an no offense to the blogger here, but I get sick to death of the “lets cater to the idiots” crowd types of posts. —as you can probably tell. :D

]]> By: Michael Samuelson http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21365 Michael Samuelson Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:47:41 +0000 http://www.philoking.com/2009/02/27/the-state-of-tux-a-survival-guide-for-linux/#comment-21365 I couldn't agree more on the importance of color in Linux adoption. I'm coming off a 1 year stint with Kubuntu (for reasons I won't go into) and am now using Ubuntu. My original choice for Kubuntu was in part influenced by color. Kubuntu's KDE 3.5 scheme (milky as it was) just did more for me, ditto to KDE 4.1's black and blue. Because I am primarily a command line user, which desktop I chose didn't matter much regarding my ability to get the job done, so I went with the colors I liked (or could tweak - KDE's a lot easier to tweak that way). Ridiculous, but when you spend as many hours a day as I do on a computer, you want what you want. Looks like there may be an end to the Ubuntu brown in sight: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html (CTRL+f and search "brown"). mlsamuelson I couldn’t agree more on the importance of color in Linux adoption. I’m coming off a 1 year stint with Kubuntu (for reasons I won’t go into) and am now using Ubuntu. My original choice for Kubuntu was in part influenced by color. Kubuntu’s KDE 3.5 scheme (milky as it was) just did more for me, ditto to KDE 4.1′s black and blue. Because I am primarily a command line user, which desktop I chose didn’t matter much regarding my ability to get the job done, so I went with the colors I liked (or could tweak – KDE’s a lot easier to tweak that way). Ridiculous, but when you spend as many hours a day as I do on a computer, you want what you want.

Looks like there may be an end to the Ubuntu brown in sight: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html (CTRL+f and search “brown”).

mlsamuelson

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